Hi, Thanks for all the suggestions, the plugpack I was using was not supplying as expected. Cheers Denis Hi, I have programmed two 12C509's using the WARP-13A, no problem. I am now trying to program a 16C54A. I have bought four ,in packets, from RS. I put the first one straight from the packet into the 18 pin socket, checked orientation. Clicked on Blank, and it says the chip isn't blank. Replaced that chip with another chip, clicked on blank and it says the chip isn't blank either. I would appreciate a hint as to what I am doing wrong. The 12C509's registered as blank and programmed without a problem. Thanks Denis -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.