Hello Bob, Friday, September 29, 2000, 12:42:21, you wrote: BA> The more different software installed the more likely the machine is to get BA> gummed up. To give you an idea of how bad it can be when you are trying to BA> support software that has been developed over the last n > 15 years, here is BA> a _subset_ of what is on my machine. It takes _forever_ to boot! Win 98SE Protel 99SE SP5 Office 2K (the full 4CD pack) Delphi 5.0 (Pro) Visual Studio 6 (Enterprise) Personal Web Server PIC Dev tools AVR Dev tools Winamp Winrar WinZip WinAce Ultraedit 32 Unreal T Quake 3 Carmageddon TDR2000 Caramgeddon 2 Star Wars Pod Racer Macromedia Dreamweaver UltraDev Acrobat 4 PsiWin Adobe Photoshop 5 Paint Shop pro 6 This is just my machine at work. It's now in serious bpl (Borland Package Library) hell. ASP Express converted my nice COM to COM+, hmm now all my CORBA apps are a bit.... Time to format c: -- From Jamie Dainton Friday, September 29, 2000 14:04:22 The Bat! 1.47 Beta/5 Windows 98 4.10 2222 mailto:pgp@dainton.org.uk?subject=sendKey -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: "[PIC]:" PIC only "[EE]:" engineering "[OT]:" off topic "[AD]:" ad's