At 11:57 PM 9/27/00 +0200, Peter L. Peres wrote: >Look, I'll be fair. 80% of the schematics I work with (not drawn by me) >represent SAW filters as an empty rectangle with four ports with pin >numbers. Some however, omit the pin numbers, and show only one ground >connection. Same for elliptical filters and many other things. Such as >voltage regulators and 3-pin reset chips. I don't do it like that, I don't >like it, but that is everyday reality. Just trying to hold the line.. :) I built an orcad part for "polarized" resonators. I see this a lot, mostly in caps, using polar and non-polar symbols as if there were no difference, but it's just not right. BTW: I checked the most recent Atmel AVR data sheets, and they are leaving off the values for the xtal caps (!HOORAY!) -- Where's dave? http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?kc6ete-9 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu