24 Sep 00, Paul Drummon writes to All: P> When they say that the scenix chips are compatible with the 16c5X P> series of pic chips does that mean l can program them with my picstart P> programmer or am l dreaming ? No, SX programming protocol is not compatible with PIC. You can check http://www.svtehs.com/scenix.htm for different SX programming solutions. P> Does anyone know who supplies them in Australia and what they cost for P> a 18 pin 1k type ? I did not know Australian supplier, however you can order SX chips from one of the online stores - for example, from http://www.svtehs.com/scenix_m.htm Check also SX-DEV in-circuit debugger/programmer and real-time emulator at http://www.svtehs.com/sxdev.htm - this simple tool can save you lot of time in your next SX design. Alexey Vladimirov avlad@svtehs.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: "[PIC]:" PIC only "[EE]:" engineering "[OT]:" off topic "[AD]:" ad's