>Anyway it >all depends on the 'pusher'. Apparently some conductive rubbers shed the >graphite compound which is not bound into the (it's a "sponge" soaked >(polymerized) with colloidal graphite). After X presses there is none left EEEwwww..! I'm glad we didn't run into those guys. The LA area atmosphere is something else. It's amazing how you can have that much black sticky crud in the air, and never notice it walking around. It sure shows up in the PC filters though. In Hawaii, no matter where you are, you are in a constant mist of salt water. You can sand a bare spot on steel, and WATCH it rust. Here in the midwest, all I get is dryer lint :) -- Where's dave? http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?kc6ete-9 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.