ST makes a VB409 that provides, I think, 1 A at an unregulated 16 V and a regulated 5 VDC at around 80ma from the power lines. We looked at them, but haven't ordered any to try. No idea on cost or performance. Howard Howard McGinnis hmcginni@digital.net http://ddi.digital.net/~hmcginni -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! use mailto:listserv@mitvma.mit.edu?body=SET%20PICList%20DIGEST