David Lions wrote: .............. >Does anyone know of a straight-forward theory page on ECG circuits on >the web? I am doing a quick one-off ECG at the moment. Using this >circuit: http://www.wavetek.com/products/AppNoteArbs.html > Don't have any ECG sites to point you to, but I looked at the wavetek site, and have a couple of comments: 1. First off, they are using a DC-coupled integrated amp with [apparently] high-gain. This may not actually work very well because the skin electrodes typically have contact potentials in the 0.5-0.7v range. The ckt will immediately saturate unless the contact potentials are very close and track together over time. 2. ECG signals are much larger than the EEG signals Lance was talking about - low mV range vs low uV range, respectively. His problem is much worse in terms of gain and noise rejection, but yours is worse in terms of low-end frequency cutoff. He can probably use 1-2 hz low-end, you will need somewhat < 1 hz. 3. A fairly straight-forward AC-coupled instrumentation amp will generally work pretty well for ECG measurements. Unlike wavetek's ckt, you can generally use a series-C, R-to-gnd differentiator ckt on the front-end of the amp, with RC time-constant of 10 sec or longer. 4. You will note that, in wavetek's Fig 2, this waveform probably represents an amplifier with low-end cutoff >1 hz or so, rather than DC-coupled, like in Fig 1. A real ECG signal typically has a DC "plateau" in the S-T segment. To see it, you have to have a very low low-end cutoff. 5. You can generally knock together a basic ECG amp in a short while, compared with Lance who will have to fiddle around much more. 6. NOTE - You do have to be careful when connecting anything to the human body that you do not inadvertantly electrocute the person being monitored. Commercial ECG/EEG/EMG systems all have means to electrically isolate the high-level electronics - optoisolators, transformer-coupled power, etc. hope this helps, - Dan Michaels Oricom TEchnologies http://www.sni.net/~oricom ========================== -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu