>> For some reason people seem to have an >> amazing capacity to be penny-wise and pound-foolish. >The proper euphemism is: Hobbiest. Or avaiability! I live in Brazil and you can't find Picstart here at an= reasonable price (+$200, believe it or not). So I got the NoPPP schematic,= built it in less than an hour, had all the parts in my parts bin and it= works flawlessly. And it solved my problem. with The NoPPP95 program, it= got just better! Sometimes you need a cheap programmer. --------------8<-------Corte aqui-------8<-------------- All the best!!! Alexandre Souza xandinho@interlink.com.br --------------8<-------Corte aqui-------8<-------------- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu