> I don't know, but do you really want to get a programmer that only does > some of the chips? I recommend you just get the PicstartPlus. It's not > expensive and it covers the whole product line. Since it's supported by > Microchip, upgrades will be available as new chips are released. I'd have to disagree slightly with that - for a year or two I used a NZ$50 programmer and simple text editor/assembler just for C84/F84. Nothing fancy, but it got me started until I could afford/justify a PSP, which as you say, with MPLAB, is a very good entry level system -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu