It's the crappy antenna on FRS radios that limit their range. Thank you VERY much FCC. The $80 US Alinco (SP?) ham band or FRS S-41T can be modified for a real antenna. 300mw ain't too bad with a real antenna. There are instructions for this on the web. I use a modified Alinco I bought on Ebay to talk to FRS radios all the time. GL, Walt... -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics