When you program in the non-debug mode, you are really programming the P= IC for standalone operation. =A0 After programming it, disconnect the ICD from the PIC. =A0Put a 1K, 10K= , 100K or whatever pullup resistor on /MCLR to +5VDC. Reset either by a= pplying power or mometarily grounding /MCLR. Peter H. Anderson, http://www.phanderson.com/PIC, pha@phanderson.com Sign up for Free-for-Life E-mail at http://www.Africana.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu