Put a low value resistor in series at the driving pin. Actually, you can use a Pot and adjust the signal until you see a nice semi-sin wave that still has a full swing at each input pin. See: http://www.piclist.com/../noises aka http://www.piclist.com/techref/default.asp?url=noises Where you will hear Pa say: Insert a small resistance in series with each very high speed signal produced by the chips. I always leave a pad for an SMD resister at each pin of a high frequency signal source when I make a PCB. I just bridge the pad with a fine trace (which acts as a small resistor) and if noise becomes a problem, I slice the trace and install a larger resistance. That is reason number 999 for http://www.piclist.com/../logic/xtrapins.htm adding resistances to io pins. Think of the resistance as a way of preventing the water valve from being opened all the way. But won't that mess up the signal? delay its propagation? reduce its level? Well, see, even in digital electronics, signals are analog. Its a matter of reducing and delaying a signal A LITTLE in order to decrease noise A LOT. The signal path acts as a (very small) capacitor and the extra (very small) resistor helps to convert the square wave of the original signal (with infinite harmonics) into a semi-sin wave (with no harmonics). Just ask the guys who designed the RS-232 spec. Switching speed is an evil thing --- James Newton (PICList Admin #3) mailto:jamesnewton@piclist.com 1-619-652-0593 PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com or .org -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Phil Anderson Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 12:36 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: [EE]: terminating a ringing 74HC clock Fellow Picsters... I have a clock with CMOS output running around a pc board, roughly 8 inches, to the XTAL input of a PIC. The clock is 16 Mhz, and while scoping it, I see that it rings badly, i.e. large overshoot on the rising edge and large undershoot on the falling edge. Spectrum analyzer picks it right up! Nice 16 Mhz picket fence. How may I clean up this ringing? Phil. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics