I use the ICSP, since you probably have a programmer anyway it makes it really simple, either put a connector on the board, or for production I use large pads and spring loaded contacts, the only extra component to add is a diode to the reset line. Makes reprogramming a breeze, with my setup I use either a 16C76 or 16F876, all I change is the header files and rebuild it. Martin > That should work in a clean (electrically) environment. Don't expect it to work > well on a factory floor, long wires make good antennas. > > I would suggest, however, that you use a pic16f877 for prototyping. There are > only a few things you need to change to make it work, and you can load the > program using a bootloader rather than dealing with a programmer and ICSP, or > even the older than dirt program-plug-test-unplug-erase-etc cycle (it's a pain > even with two or three chips used in a rotating manner) > > Once you've got the program working on the flash part, changing the program for > the c64 is trivial. > > -Adam > > Martin McCormick wrote: > > > > I will be using a 16C64 in a project in which there are > > enough significant issues that I will most likely be needing to > > pull and reprogram the PIC several times before everything is > > right. The project is on a perforated board and the PIC will > > eventually sit in a wire-wrap socket, but the plan is to build a > > second little board containing a ZIF socket and two roughly > > 6-inch or 16-CM pig-tails containing female connectors that will > > fit down on to the pins of the 40-pin wire-wrap socket. > > > > The pig-tails are each 40-lead ribbons that I salvaged > > from some old gear but only one 20-pin row can be used on each > > connector. I plan on grounding half the conductors so that > > ribbons will have a signal, ground, signal, ground pattern. > > > > In this case, the 16-meg oscillator is being supplied by > > a 7404-based circuit I built as I need clocks for other devices > > on the board. > > > > Does this idea have any hope of working?:-) I see it as > > saving a lot of wear and tear on the 40-pin socket which I can > > wire normally. When it is good, the test set can come off and > > the PIC can fit in to the socket in the normal way. > > > > This PIC will not be operated in Microprocessor mode so > > the fastest switching with the exception of the clock input will > > be at 4 MHZ or 250 ns per event. > > > > I plan to put decoupling capacitors on both the permanent > > and test sockets. > > > > I bet one will be able to hear the test setup very well > > on a HF receiver. > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.