>persistent black flux You mean it was like amber ? ;-) Rosin flux is made of rosin which is also known as amber when dried clean. Also known for extremely good dielectric properties when dry (amber was used in early electrostatic experiments). Try to remove rosin based flux residue with acetone or paint thinner. Both attack plastic but both work well. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics