When using DIP, instead of automatically plotting a board out for through-pin, make it upside-down (or lay traces on the "top" side). Bend IC legs out SMT-style, bend them under PLCC-style or cut the legs short and just sit the IC on the tracks. In all cases make the bends or cuts in the narrowest part of the leg so you can use thinner tracks. Several plusses for me - saves W&T on drill bits, easier to follow signal paths when you can see the pin a track is connected to and I get to use some recycled SMT passive parts from scrap boards Double-siding is a lot easier when you don't have to avoid pins from the other side. A few pins can be left straight to go through the board for power / logic connections ******************************** A programmer is a device for turning coffee into software -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.