Well... we are not getting paid off by SPAMers to sell them your emails Of course we are also not getting paid by you to protect them.... In case you missed it, that was a little dig about how we are volunteers and "whaddya want for free" But, we do try to do a good job... I've personally bugged the two existing archives sites that I know about to password protect or obfuscate your email address in the mail headers. Can't help with people who choose to include an email in a signature line. piclist.com has all email addresses obfuscated and I don't allow site indexing anyway. When people index it they get a warning with a nice list of spammers email addresses. I hope to direct the snakes head back to its own tail, so to speak. I'm working on a way for list members to post (and browse, and archive search which is working now) from a web page that would completely protect your anonymity while also automatically searching for FAQ answers before posting ("are you sure that this FAQ item doesn't answer your post?"). It would also make setting the topic one hell of a lot easier. But that can't happen until a server upgrade is in place. Anybody want to donate? Look, any spammer can subscribe to the list and just sit back and collect email addresses. How would we know? You can specify a B.S. reply to address but that would just make it harder for people to reply to you. You could specify a B.S. "who you are" email address in your email clients account setup for the smtp server you send email from but I wonder if most ISPs will still allow you to post. And I believe the list server would not allow you to post as well. Mike? Mark? I'm not an expert on this. Anyway, there is also a list server command that allows any (member? anyone?) to request a list of subscribers. You can prevent yourself from showing up on that list by sending: SET PICLIST CONCEAL to LISTSERV@mitvma.mit.edu mailto:LISTSERV@mitvma.mit.edu?body=SET%20PICLIST%20CONCEAL This allows the user to be concealed from the REVIEW command. Note that the list owner or LISTSERV maintainer can always get the complete list of subscribers, regardless of this setting. But this wasn't the source of this SPAM (or any other from what I can see) as I have never been concealed and the address that I keep getting spammed at is not the address that I'm subscribed under. It's the address I use in by signature line. :) --- James Newton (PICList Admin #3) mailto:jamesnewton@piclist.com 1-619-652-0593 PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com or .org -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Craig Lee Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 09:34 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: [PICLIST] [ADMIN]: Motorola SPAM It definitely is traceable to this list as I received the Motorola spam on my piclist email address which I absolutely only use for receiving mail from the piclist. I set this up after the Todd Peterson spam, so that if I received spam due to piclist mining, I would know about it. [TO ADMIN] What is the administration of this list doing to ensure that list mining does not continue. Definitely since I have 'red-handed' evidence that Motorola did spam us, against Motorola's denial. > -----Original Message----- > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Daniel Hart > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 8:28 AM > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [OT]: Motorola SPAM > > > Yes. I received the Moto blurb. Upsetting, but not directly traceable to > this list. Note her "to" address is within Moto! > Dan -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu