> > (ex.... very annoyed 16HC11 sufferer) > 16HC11? No wonder! ;-) Spam. Even more reason for me to not use Mot parts. As if all of the other reasons were not good enough... Used to really like the '11 and even the '05. Spent $$ on development HW and tools. -Rob http://usbsimm.home.att.net -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics