Francsico: When you say you get good results with FAX paper, do you mean the thermal fax paper cut to size and run thru a laser printer? And exactly what are you calling "WC" paper, I have had some problems with the pattern moving when I iron it on even with a piece of regular paper between the iron and the sheet with the pattern. Thanks for any help, Randy Abernathy -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics