say i have a 16C711 (not JW) and I use an "x-ray machine", will it be = erased? Can I use a Microwave-oven? /Johan ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Robert Rolf" To: Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [PIC]: 16C711 JW code protection > Marc wrote: > > > > Hi. Today I have trashed two 16C711 JW devices. Although I > > spent a lot of attention to the code protection being set to OFF, > > both chips reported a programming error, namely the CP setting > > "illegal". > > > > Both are now not erasable anymore and ready for the trashcan. >=20 > So try baking them in high (150C) temperature oven for a while. > You've got nothing to loose. High temperature causes higher > leakage and may be able to drain off the buried charge on the > code protect bit. High temperatures are really only a packaging > problem, and in the JW case you can go REALLY high (after all > they fab the IC's at 1000's of degrees C). >=20 > If you have access to an x-ray machine, try blasting them with > low energy x-rays. That WILL remove the charge. > Someone on this list probably knows what dose would work. >=20