>wrt duplicates not coming through the list I never got any duplicates from outside the list, all were inside digests. Duplicates from offlist cannot reach me due to draconic mail filters on the way. On another line: Messages in digests are separated by a line like this: ------------------------------ this is not such a good idea, since many people use such lines in thie .sigs etc., and LISTSERV does not escape them. Could this be changed to a MIME style separator like: --------------05Ba_2436547889322az ? (but without making it a proper MIME separator so readers don't split it into parts). The number could be fixed - perhaps a md5sum of a date string or something. This would be really useful for us digest readers. Peter