Hi Dan. > Anyone know of any cheapo tools, s.w. and h.w., for programming > PALs? Have you considered using ICT's PEEL's instead (Programmable Electrically Eraseable Logic). They are pin and JEDEC compatible with the same size PALS. I am not quite sure what a programmer costs (i bought mine 10 years ago), but the design software is free. Take a look at : http://www.ictpld.com/ > Main interest is doing chips with about 10 inputs and 8 "registered" > outputs. Anyone have favorite chips/vendors along this line? That could be an 18CV8 Rgds Jan