Mark Willis wrote: > Hi, Brian. (Replied on list as other people may hit this sort of > problem.) > > I don't know if getting at those headers is possible; Mike is the > expert on L-Soft manuals and list settings that we admins CAN get at ::blush:: I wouldn't quite say that. > We try to keep the number of messages we receive, somewhat down - > as it could mean another large bunch of "This message hasn't arrived > yet" etc. messages a day otherwise - the crew inside MIT handle a good > number of these settings, plus, most all PICList messages are actually > distributed through L-Soft's mail sending server - as we never see these > error messages, it's hard to figure out who to ask for a full-headers > copy (I'm not sure a human ever reads these!) We don't even get a > message when a user's unsubscribed by the list for too many Bounce > messages, only way we can tell about that is to ask for a membership > roster of the list or specifics on a particular (ex-) list member. I've set the server to pass me error messages. Or, at least I *think* I managed to do so. As it currently stands, errors are being handled in multiple locations, depending on the error. So that'll make it a bit tricky to find exactly what is happening with Brian's bounces. But I'll keep an eye on what error messages I get. Brian, next time you get unsubbed due to a bounce, email me directly to let me know. My address is: reznaeous@earthlink.net > I do know you can send a re-subscribe message on a regular basis (cron > and a mail sender daemon?), and the listserve will just tell you you're > already on the list most of the time, is one possibility, when you get a > subscription verification you'll know to answer it quickly, if you have > a mail auto-sender. > > The problem's not going to be with your account, BTW - suggest to them > that they TraceRoute to cherry.ease.lsoft.com [209.119.0.109] as that's > likely the machine the messages come to you from - if it's a direct > connection, then probably their inbound SMTP server has problems and is > bouncing mail that arrives there from LSoft. I cc'ed you on this to > hope that I could get a bounce, if I do I'll share the headers with you > (somehow ) > > Mark > > Brian Gracia wrote: > > I have been unsubscribbed from this list a number of times in the last few > > months. I have been talking with the tech support staff and they cannot > > find a problem with my account. They are requesting a copy of any messages > > that bounce so they can figure out what is going on. Can you set up the > > listserv software so that when you send me the notice saying I have been > > unsubscribbed because of bounced emails, I can get a copy of the header > > files and any messages from their server as to why. I tried to see if that was possible, but didn't have much luck. The closest I could find was how to send you *every* error and bounce that comes through. But I figured you *really* didn't want that. ::grin:: > > I was lasted kicked off this list because of 2 emails bounces in several > > days. I could use some better help to determine what the problem might be > > other than the standard message the list spits out. We'll see what we can find out for you. Hopefully something will turn up in the messages I'll (hopefully) be receiving now. -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | "Where do you want to go today?" | "As far from Redmond as possible!" '91 GS500E | Morgantown WV | Only dead fish go with the flow.