On 24 May 2000, at 7:32, Andrew Kunz wrote: > > > > I had to use IAR for one project a while back, and hated every minute > of the dongleware. > > The IDE was too counter-intuitive, I don't like IDE's very much to > begin with (I _have_ and editor, thank you very much), and it just > didn't have the right feel. I prefer command-line compilers such as > you get with PIC C. > > It made decent object code, though. > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > Martin Sch Well, I sure know what you mean. But I still have problems with hi- tech's pic c. For sure, its a nice slick dos program, but thats just it! Thats the problem. They don't have anything that will run on an IMSAI, or an ALTAIR (even nothing for an AIM65 ). You really aren't going to believe this, but I checked and I found out that although they do have a C compiler that runs under CPM, they don't have a version for CPM that will compile code for the Pics. They have just gotten too durn modern with that blasted dos stuff, and now, to take the cake, some of their customers, and potential customers are asking fer stuff to run under the dad-blamed winders operating system. It really steams me up! "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler