And they have a heck of a deal going with the seminars... see http://www.microchip.com/10/Events/embedded/index.htm The PICStart Plus is $150 including the registration. But think about an ICD instead... much better. --- James Newton mailto:jamesnewton@geocities.com 1-619-652-0593 http://techref.massmind.org All the engineering secrets worth knowing -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Quitt, Walter Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 09:05 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: PICSTART PLUS Call your nearest MicroChip distributor. I'm pretty srue we've been buying them for 149. -----Original Message----- From: Samuel Winchenbach [mailto:swinchen@EECE.MAINE.EDU] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 5:32 PM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: PICSTART PLUS Hello all- I have been using a small homeade programmer for some time now, but the software I wrote is really weak. I think it is time for me to upgrade to a picstart plus. the cheapest I have found one was through digi-key for 199 bucks! does anyone know of a better place to purchase one? or does anyone have any recommendations on a different programer? thanks Sam