I don't know if any of you who are based in UK or Europe know about Beta Layout for getting cheap 1 off PCBs made. You get a professional through hole plated PCB eurocard size of 49 euros. You can also get 4 layer 1 off boards done too. Check out there web page. www.pcb-pool.com Sorry if you already know this but I can not search the Archive anymore. It gives me a result count but no message headers. I just thought it would be of interest to all you hobbyists out there. There is even free PCB design software in there site for small PCB's. I don't have any association with them other than being a very sattisfied customer. Regards Da\/e...