>> An "idiot" that caused $4.4 billion worth of damage. Say what? The "$$$ damage" reports for computer crackers have always seemed pretty suspect to me - similar to the "street values" reported for large drug seizures. I mean, where do you actually GET $4.4 billion? X million computers infected, each of took a "computer expert" (worth $$$/hour, of course) some time to fix? NNN systems offline for YY hours, at an average revenue rate of $$$, or charged CPU rate of $$? Gimme a break. Like anyone actually paid extra for someone to fix this, or lost an order when they were offline that didn't come in later. I hear much of the lost time was in assorted government agencies? Maybe that ought to count as a benefit! The "agents" in Los Alamos did a much more concrete bit of businness. (not that there were any. Accidents beat out malice yet again...) BillW