try putting a (misc small signal) diode between MCLR switch and the + rail to prevent voltage on mclr going up to the + pic supply thru the switch. My toasted pic rate went way down after i started doing this. alice > Hi, > I definately am not missing a ground. The power supply has correct polarity > and voltage. Definatley checked out many times. There are only four grounds > and two 5v connections. If it is latch, up under those conditions would it > not also latch-up the 'c84 thats in there now? I'm only loading it with a > CRO and logic probe which have input impedance of several hundred k. Would > it be safe to say they're throw-away items? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Spehro Pefhany [mailto:speff@INTERLOG.COM] > Sent: Monday, 8 May 2000 11:36 > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: ?? Short ?? > > > At 12:28 PM 5/8/00 +1000, you wrote: > >Hi Spehro, > >And thanks for your reply. I have a 7805 reg in there thats good for about > >an amp. It shares the common ground and positive 5V with the '55. The > >control lines are accounted for at either 0V or 5V. The chip would probably > >get hot as if I let it go for longer than 2 - 3 seconds. For latch-up to > >occur, would I not need a bias from somewhere? Apart from porta and control > >lines, everything else is floating. I don't quite understand. > > I've seen it happen with a multimeter test probe (when it is first > connected). > > I've also seen it with power supply connection problems (like a missing > ground wire). > > Could be something else, of course, but it sounds like the classic symptoms. > > Best regards, > > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > = > Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the > reward" > speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com > Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com > Contributions invited->The AVR-gcc FAQ is at: http://www.bluecollarlinux.com > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > =