It's Andy, first off. Our IS dept doesn't think so, though... They are programmed as part of the main memory with every programmer that I know of. The proper format is determined by your burner/compiler/assembler, but basically it is ordinary data stored at some address (I forget what address that is). Microchip has a standard for defining where EEPROM data is ORG'd, and I know that Carmacon, HiTech, ByteCraft, Tech-Tools, and Microchip all follow that standard. I don't know about anybody else. Best way to find out is to copy a '84 sample. Andy Josh Koffman on 05/03/2000 02:42:49 PM Please respond to pic microcontroller discussion list To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU cc: (bcc: Andrew Kunz/TDI_NOTES) Subject: Re: 16f877 Data Memory Andrew Kunz wrote: > > Yes, it can. Use the same procedure for declaring the data as you would for a > '84. The only difference is that you have a lot bigger EEPROM internally now. Andrew, Thank you for the quick response. I was playing around with P16Pro, and I can modify the memory locations one by one. Would these be programmed at the same time I program the main memory? Also do you happen to know the proper format to write a file will all those values in it? Thank you very much for all your help. Josh Koffman joshy@mb.sympatico.ca