hi! i am using HI-TECH Software's PICCLITE and MPLAB (4.12). it was very easy to get the two hooked up w/ each other. each time i build my project, once or twice a dialog box appears stating that something has timed out (?) and asking if i wish to proceed. so i have to watch and click to say "YES of course". the build is otherwise unremarkable. any idea what's going on here? i tried to work around the problem by issuing the two commands that the build window shows directly to DOS, viz: H:\PL\BIN\PICL.EXE -GMicrochip -O -Zg9 -D24 -E -ASMLIST -16F84 -C H:\TEST\SERIAL.C H:\PL\BIN\PICL.EXE -INTEL -16F84 -oSERIAL.HEX H:\TEST\SERIAL.OBJ which works fine (no need to tell it to go ahead!) and seems to actually be quite a bit faster (?) and it looks like it makes all the same objects, which would make it a really good work-around except that the *.C file doesn't seem to be correctly synchronized with the Program Memory window during simulation. again i ask if you have any idea what is going on here. other than that, i continue to be very happy with the FREE compiler and the FREE MPLAB, a great piece of software in its own right. --rob