The problem. as I understand it is two fold - Tantalums fail catastrophically at a voltage slightly in excess of their rated value. Energy of excess voltage spike is irrelevant - Failure mode is a metallic short circuit If your power bus never has voltage spikes in excess of the tantalum cap's rating then fine. Unfortunately, the world I live in usually can't guarantee this condition. Mains has transients. Car battery supplies has transients. External noise can induce transients in most anything else sometimes. As a friend of mine used to say "Tantalum Caps - fastest fuse on two legs" - really fastest crowbar on 2 legs. As I have noted here before - with a little luck you can get noise, smell, smoke, fire and explosion from a single tantalum failure. I have. Lots of fun if its on the test bench. Worse if its inside some equipment. I personally would never use a tantalum cap in a high energy circuit. SOLID Aluminum electrolytic caps don't have this problem and are about as good. These are rarely seen but are available. Philips have some. Russell McMahon _____________________________ >From other worlds - www.easttimor.com www.sudan.com What can one man* do? Help the hungry at no cost to yourself! at http://www.thehungersite.com/ (* - or woman, child or internet enabled intelligent entity :-)) -----Original Message----- From: William Chops Westfield To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Date: Friday, 28 April 2000 06:12 Subject: Re: [OT] From: Fire in the Hole - Tantalums > To re-iterate, for the sake of all those who do the same thing > as I too have done in the past: > > "Reliability degrades when they are operated in low-impedance > circuits, and so they are not suitable for power supply > reservoir operations". > > ref, p 83, "The Circuit Designer's Companion", Tim Williams, > 1996, Newnes pub. > >Really? I see them used this way constantly, even recomended (particular >brands and values, usually) in SPS chip app notes, and advertised for this >purpose (ie by ESR, IIRC.) Are SOME tantalum caps specifically (re)designed >for such applications, or are some other specific types (perhaps no longer >very common) the ones that are unsuitable there. > >(come to think of it, I don't know that I've ever seen tantalum caps widely >used for anything BUT power bypass...) > >BillW >