Grif wrote: >I guess the next step is start breadboarding the thing one part at a >time. Do the front end,,, no digital stuff at all, battery powered, >running clean. Then start adding stuff. Yeah, I do this with my s.w., when I have something I can't fix any other way. With h.w., it's so much harder. I have done a lot of testing in the past, mostly on the finished pcbs, removing other chips, adding caps here and there, etc. I think this is more a "systems-level" problem and has to be fixed in place, so I've been going the route via first principles. That is, I read everything I can find on low-noise analog and high-speed digital design, and then incorporate those ideas into the pcb design, etc, and then test and work with that. I think sometimes the sum is greater than the parts [gee, sounds like something *you* would say - yes?]. ============== Wagner wrote: > >Just a question: THe 2mV readed at the A/D output is a jumping noise or >a steady noise, that can be confused with a/c or d/c A/D input offset? > >Another point is that I never use a 16 bits ADC to read 16 bits >signals... I just ignore last 3 or 4 bits, so I pay more for a steady .......... Not an offset issue, I think, rather fuzz that overwhelms the lowest 2 LSBs. And for a 12-bit A/D I was hoping to get better than 9.5 bits. ============ >> The Vref on my LTC1400 A/D is inside the chip, >> bypass caps outside. Noise measured via A/D binary >> output, with front-end amp tied hard to gnd. > >What about short to ground the LTC1400 inputs? not just the front end >amp inputs... You need to isolate and make sure where is the origin of >the noise. > Yeah, I need to go back and do some more testing. Try to isolate and correlate noise with possible sources - exactly. All the older pcbs are gone now, and I am finishing a new layout, and so will do more tests once I get those. Also, see above answer. Thanks for the suggestions, - Dan Michaels ================