>From: "M. Adam Davis" >Subject: Re: Perhaps a Peaceful Ending? [OT] >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Todd, it is difficult for me to broach this subject without being angry. When >people use the internet without understanding how to use it appropiately I'm >torn between two reactions: Assuming that they really have no clue about what >they are doing, or assuming they do know, and they just don't care. I suggest that if some messages make you angry then you just PgDn or Ctrl-D, and move on rather than wasting your time composing such missives and just contributing zero information to the List. You know I think some people just lurk here waiting to pounce on people they view as having transcended the 'rules'. You must have spent 30-40 minutes typing that email. I hope it was cathartic for you. Comments: 1. I get about 40 emails a day. 10-15 daily are spam. They are easy to recognise. It takes 1 sec at most to Ctrl-D each one and move on. 2. Norton 2000 stops all virus's cold. Press enter and move on. 3. I think Todd has made similar broad mailings before. I was interested in them, read them and filed them. They were electronics-related after all. I certainly did not view them as Spam. 4. Other people routinely post completely OT items to this list but do so without censure and which happen to get ME angry - but I PgDn and move on. Russell last put in a message about religion last friday and typically ends his messages with easttimor.com and starving kids. Well having been in E. Timor at the time of the 1975 coup, having 'hunted' the locals in Rhodesia in 1978 and worked in Indonesia bribing my way around for 2 years I get rather hot when I read such pleas from distant, green New Zealand by a person who has never been to these places. But I rapidly hit the PgDn and move on. I am to busy to worry about such things. (All do-gooders should read 'Deliver us from Evil', William Shawcross, 2000. His latest book.) >You sent a mass mailing, which very few of us solicited you for. You can take >the issue, twist it around, make it sound like you are a reputable company which >misjudged your potential customers, but the reality is very different. You say, >"Honestly, we've had so many PIClisters request to be notified as new IC's are >released that I didn't consider it to be spamming at all." By putting it that >way you make it sound like spam is a subjective judgement. It is not. There >are hard and fast rules that you can apply to your actions which judge whether >it is spam or not. It would be interesting to know what you meant by "so many >PIClisters". 'Anal obsession' comes into my head from Psych 101 many years ago. >Todd, if this is your understanding of how the internet works, you do not >deserve to be hosted by any reputable hosting company. I am reporting your >misuse to NETINS.NET and CW.NET. CW.NET has a more verbose acceptable use >policy, you might be interesting in reading it as well, though it only applies >to NETINS (they are under fire from CW for allowing you to send your mail). >http://www.cwusa.com/internet_aup.htm You are 'perseverating'. These actions if you did in fact do them I view as stupid, small-minded and out of all proportion to the 'offence'. Ranting to the List is a waste of time. >While you have not contributed much to the piclist, I would encourage you to Oh! Are there two classes of people on the PIClist? >I do not wish to offend you in this email, and I hope it is informative rather >than inflamatory. I needed to get this off my chest. Todd might not have been but I am. I too hope this 'is informative rather than inflamatory'. To OTHER MATTERS: 1. The chap complaining about P16PRO programmer not working was building a programmer from scratch. He did not buy a kit from me. However, I understand he has now purchased a kit 96 from one of my USA importers. 2. ZIP backups. As I mentioned a week ago do NOT use 100MB or 250MB iomega ZIP ddrives for storage. Mine crashed last week. This fault is evidently well known. Search yahoo for 'click death zip' and you will find 10's of websites devoted to the problem and class-action suit against the manufacturer. My 6.3GB using Norton Ghost partition-to-image complete backup is running perfectly. regards, Peter Crowcroft DIY Electronics (HK) Ltd PO Box 88458, Sham Shui Po, Hong Kong Voice: 852-2720 0255 Fax: 852-2725 0610 Web: http://kitsrus.com Email: peter@kitsrus.com Email:diykit@pacific.net.hk ----------------------------------------------------------------------