James Newton wrote: > >I've started a beginning engineers checklist at >http://techref.massmind.org/begin >and added this to it. I'd love to hear some other sage advice that is >general for survival in this business. > Speaking of real [albeit non-engineering] classics, check out the recent Dilbert column on how a pointy-haired "clueless" guy deals with unwanted phonecalls. Brilliant. Starts out: "Again? That thing rang last week, too" .... ============= Back to "true" life drama [and deserved(??) karma]: Several years ago, while working in aerospace, I was talking with my manager/boss in the hall one day, when he looked at his watch and said, "Oops, I have to go to a meeting now. Maybe you should come along too". [note - I had no previous knowledge of this meeting]. Well, the meeting was with the "customer", included 20-30 people, me being the least senior, and included our division manager and several air force colonels. The "major theme" of the meeting, as it turned out, concerned problems with one of the subsystems I was test engineer on at the time. Among other things they wanted to hear a detailed history of the problem going back several years, and all the steps we had taken along the way to correct it. Well, needless to say, ..... Later, my [pointy-haired] boss said, "You did a pretty bad job in there today. You should always be prepared for this kind of thing, ....". P.S. After that date, I was no longer on the A-List in the department. P.P.S. Eventually Mr. Pointy-Hairs was canned, after almost getting himself shot, trying to barge past a marine guard at the launch pad. Just one of many, - Dan Michaels