I've started a beginning engineers checklist at http://techref.massmind.org/begin and added this to it. I'd love to hear some other sage advice that is general for survival in this business. --- James Newton mailto:jamesnewton@geocities.com 1-619-652-0593 http://techref.massmind.org NEW! FINALLY A REAL NAME! Members can add private/public comments/pages ($0 TANSTAAFL web hosting) -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Lance Allen Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 14:24 To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [OT] Engineer's Creed Tom Wrote > Russ, you forgot the parts dealing with the Full Moon, migration of > crabs, sex, lies, and video tapes. Actually, that falls under Marketing. > True Story: > > When I was working for Datricon designing 6809-based STD Bus embedded > controllers, Marketing actually took prototype boards, stuffed them in a > box, added some wire bundles, set the box on top of the elevator, took a > picture, and made a wonderful full-color brochure about our hot new > product controlling an elevator. Never mind that it didn't exist yet... > > - Tom > Been there... had that inflicted on me. I was at the concept development phase of a multipoint alarm monitoring system. The CEO asked me "Is it going to work" I foolishly said "yes"....... 2 days latter I found I had 3 weeks to deliver 30 finished units complete with PC display graphics of system status. Needless to say things turned to custard, but I delivered 2 months later after having worked night and day and endured endless grilling from the management. I quit not long after that. I recall "Scotty from Star Trek" stated he gained a good reputation as an engineer by quoting that the work would take twice as long as he really thought, and then 'apparently' delivered in half the time. _____________________________ Lance Allen Technical Officer Uni of Auckland Psych Dept New Zealand www.psych.auckland.ac.nz _____________________________