Russ, you forgot the parts dealing with the Full Moon, migration of crabs, sex, lies, and video tapes. Actually, that falls under Marketing. True Story: When I was working for Datricon designing 6809-based STD Bus embedded controllers, Marketing actually took prototype boards, stuffed them in a box, added some wire bundles, set the box on top of the elevator, took a picture, and made a wonderful full-color brochure about our hot new product controlling an elevator. Never mind that it didn't exist yet... - Tom At 09:17 PM 4/16/00 +1200, Russell McMahon wrote: >I copied Dennis Floyd's "Engineers Creed" to the PICList and after a few >iterations this is something like how it ended up - > >Creed of the Engineer: > >Design with Super Computer >Measure with micrometer >Mark with chalk >Cut with axe >Hammer to fit >Paint to match >Fine tune with software > > Russell McMahon ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tom Handley New Age Communications Since '75 before "New Age" and no one around here is waiting for UFOs ;-)