Hi: I'm in a similar position as you (i.e. poor student) and I went through quite a phase of building different programmers trying to find one that works. I had the best luck with Pic-Programmer 2 (aka the JDM programmer). It is powered by your RS-232 port, and takes no special components (a couple of transistors, two zener diodes (5.1V and 8.2V), four regular diodes, and two capacitors) and I can definitely say that it does work (at least for 16F84s in my experience). The Pic-Programmer 2 schematic can be downloaded at http://members.tripod.com/kizzyblizzy/pic2.htm. You'll probably have to change the socket pinout on the schematic to suit the 16F873. For software, I use IC-Prog which can be found/downloaded at http://www.h2deetoo.demon.nl/. The software is Windows based and very intuitive. The documentation claims it supports all PIC 16/17 series MCUs (along with dozens of other devices), but I haven't used it specifically for 16F873s yet. Perhaps someone who has used this hardware/software combination can vouch for it. Hope this helps, Chris Robertson. On Wednesday, April 05, 2000 1:04 PM, chunhee song [SMTP:chunhee@LPL.ARIZONA.EDU] wrote: > I am in same situation here. I want to build a cheap programmer for > pic16f873. I am a penniless student and don't afford to spend money on it. > Does anyone can help me??? > > Thanks a lot > > ---------- > > From: johan strombom > > To: PICLIST@mitvma.mit.edu > > Subject: Re: COM84 programmer > > Date: Thursday, April 06, 2000 11:33 AM > > > > Hi! > > > > I can't believe it would be very hard to use the "Extra low cost pic > > programmer" (http://www.jdm.homepage.dk/newpic0.htm) with a pic12C508 > > instead, the only problem is that I have no idea about the pin > configuration > > for this device. Does anyone know if it's able to build a similar > programmer > > for pic12C508, and how? I'm also interested in a simple programmer for > the > > pic16c74b. > > > > /Johan > > > > > > >From: Stan Ockers > > >Reply-To: Stan Ockers > > >To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > > >Subject: COM84 programmer > > >Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 07:35:05 -0500 > > > > > > Subject: Time: > 7:06 > > >AM > > > COM84 programmer > > >4/6/00 > > > Date: > > >After using a parallel port programmer for quite a while, I recently > > >switched to a simple serial port programmer to program PIC16F84's. The > > >programer uses few parts, is easy to use and best of all, needs no > external > > >power supply. The programmer I'm talking about can be found at: > > >http://websites.ntl.com/~matthew.rowe/micros/ > > >Click on 'Start' under PIC and then 'build the programmer'. > > >The software I use is called PIX and can be found at: > > >http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-53783/ > > >Click on 'download PIX113b.zip' > > > > > >Since this programmer is so convenient, is there any reason not to > prefer > > >it over a parallel port programmer? > > > > > >I built the programmer using 1/2 of a Radio Shack Dual general-purpose > IC > > >PC board, (276-159). If anyone is interested, I can make up a package > of > > >description and pictures. Contact me off-list if you are interested, > ( > > > ockers@anl.gov ). > > > > > >Is there a chance someone might create a similar design for the > PIC16F87X > > >series soon? > > > > > >Stan > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com