You'll never know until you try it. P.S. I'm not responsible if you do and the chip fries. --- James Newton mailto:jamesnewton@geocities.com 1-619-652-0593 http://techref.massmind.org NEW! FINALLY A REAL NAME! Members can add private/public comments/pages ($0 TANSTAAFL web hosting) -----Original Message----- From: Stan Ockers [mailto:ockers@anl.gov] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 08:51 To: jamesnewton Subject: RE: COM84 programmer Importance: Low RE: COM84 programmer 4/6/00 James Newton wrote: >http://www.picnpoke.com/demo/ROMzap.html Tony Nixons free ROMZap bootloader >[Ed: It Rocks!] can program the boot code with a "less than $5" circuit and >the rapid load your code into the chip after that. > I've been in contact with Tony. The problem is I don't have a Win32 machine. It is still quite a bit more hardware than I had in mind. If it can be done with less for the '84, why not for the 16F87X? I'm just interested in programming at first. All the fancy debugging can come later. > >http://www.xs4all.nl/~wf/wouter/pic/wloader/index.html WLoader 16f877 >application loader, occupies top 1k, bottom 7 available, application can >start at 0 (addresses 0,1,2 are 'faked'), works with WISP. > I've looked Wisp over also. It would run on my machine, but again is all that extra hardware necessary? Thanks for your rapid response. Stan