Roland, and others; If you want to take the relay contact protection task even further, I found a great book titled "noise reduction techniques in electronic systems" by Henry Ott. It is at borders for $90. There is a section on relay contact protection, which details the exact failure modes, the different circuit protection topologies, and even design equations to determine the right component values, like R and C in a snubber. It is a treasure on this subject! And on the failure protection for your system, I would strongly suggest using a single relay, and adding an activated crobar across the AC line to snap the breaker if the unit gets out of hand. It could be a second relay or even a triac. If you like, you can even hard wire the protection, such as (if limit switch AND AC being output FOR so much time, ACTIVATE crowbar). Make sure the unit lights up a light that tells your customer that the unit saved him $1000 today. Call it the money light. Then sell him a replacement board for $999. Chris Eddy Roland Andrag wrote: > I have opened the relays and can actually observe a (very) small spark when > the contacts open. The relay drives a 7 VA 220 V contactor, and is rated to > 7 A. > > The reason that I asked the question is that in the project I'm working on > it can be fairly catastrophic if the relay fails to open and the contactor > stays in ($1000's of damage can result). The likelyhood of this happening