Hi All, I'm looking for an Open Source / Open Hardware solution to program the ispLSI devices. Additionally it should be possible to prepare the project with a HDL which does not depend on the particular EPLD family (Verilog of VHDL). Now i see the following possibility: 1) Prepare & test the design with Verilog, using the v2k (http://www.v-ms.com/) or ver (http://daggit.pagecreator.com/ver/ver.html) or Icarus Verilog (http://www.icarus.com/eda/verilog/index.html) 2) Translate the tested design into ABEL (AFAIK such functionality is available in the "ver" package) 3) Compile the ABEL source with the free version of ispDesignExpert (well, it is not Open Source :-( ). 4) Download the obtained JEDEC file into the hardware. So I have a question regarding the point 4. Does anybody knows the Open Source and Open Hardware solution to acomplish it? The wdownld.exe included with ispDesignExpert requires the proprietary Download Cable (schematic is not published). Maybe other EPLD families (Altera, Xilinx etc.) are better suited for such OS/OH project (ie. more friendly to OS/OH movement)? Probably there is no EPLD family with Open Source fitter, but most vendors provide the limited versions for free, and they may be used when the Verilog compiler can generate the ABEL or AHDL source... -- TIA Wojciech Zabolotny http://www.ise.pw.edu.pl/~wzab http://www.debian.org Use Linux - save your data and time