Hello, I'm new to the Piclist so please be gentle I am attempting to revitalize an old Picstart 16B1 so that it can be used to program 16c63a's. I've found, downloaded and programmed into a 17c44 the phoenix.hex from the new-elec website. I've also downloaded and tryed out the WinTM4.exe program from the new-elec site. It doesn't work for me. I believe that either the phoenix.hex file is corrupt in some way or I shouldn't be trying to use a 17c44 device. I'm using a Needhams EMP-20 programmer to put phoenix.hex into the 17c44. Would any kind sould care to assist me? Thanks in advance!! John -- /====================================================================\ | John Voth Mobiltex Data Ltd.Calgary, Alberta,Canada, T1Y-4T7 | | jvoth@mobiltex.com 403-291-2770, 403-259-6795 (fax) | \====================================================================/