At 07:08 PM 3/28/00 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, > >Anyone have a cheap ( also real-estate is at a premium ) method for >detecting wheter or not ANY tone is present? It's kind of a requirement like that of a watchdog timer, you can take the tone, amplify and clip it, and use it to reset a 555 or use software in the PIC to measure the time between transitions.. if your timer times out (minimum frequency) then there is *no* tone, otherwise there is a tone. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=