Hi Piclisters. On Eric Smith's PIC page there is a dead link to a file on the microchip web site called "The truth about AVR" Does anyone have an actual copy of the "The truth about AVR" as I would like to read what microchip had to say. Thanks for any help. Regards, Jim Robertson NEWFOUND ELECTRONICS ________________________________________ Email: newfound@pipeline.com.au http://www.new-elect.com MPLAB compatible PIC programmers. ________________________________________