Werner, As you probably know, CMOS parts use FET's. One of the terminals on an FET is the DRAIN. This is, power supply wise, likened to the COLLECTOR on a BJT. An open DRAIN connection is just that. The DRAIN is not connected to the power source. This is so that you can connect a resistor to this pin and then to the power supply, so that you can have a wired 'OR' connection. Just put a pullup resistor from 'RA4' to Vdd, and everything should work fine. I would use from 1K to 5K ohms for this pullup. Regards, Jim On Tue, 21 March 2000, Werner Soekoe wrote: > > Hi > > I wonder if anyone could adivse me. I made a PIC16F84 circuit using all 13 > I/O pins to drive 13 LEDs, but the LED connected to RA4 doesn't light up. It > appears that the pin does provide a signal, though. When I read up some more > in the PIC16F84 datasheet, I came accross a paragraph which said that all RA > pins are CMOS drivers, except RA4 which is an "open-drain" output. Is this > why it can't deliver current? What does the "open-drain" mean? > > Thanks > > Werner Soekoe > wsoekoe@global.co.za jim@jpes.com