At 10:38 PM 3/20/00 +0100, you wrote: >> Unfortunately, the average time it takes *me* to double the number >> of components in my h.w. designs (ie, T2x) is only about 5 minutes. > >'Unfortunately' refers to your boss who carries the recurrent cost of your >design? > Yeah, well .... =========== >> Yeah, for PIC programming, one Vpp level is ok. But for *general* >> purposes, by extending this scheme using the 2 PWM outputs of a PIC28, >> plus sensing the voltage using the PIC's A/D channel in a stabilization > >OK, but now you are talking about a device that is much more ambituous than >WISP was ever meant to be. Two suggestions from me: >- be sure to support in-circuit programming >- include something like the passthrough, it is so damn convenient during >development > Those features are a part of what makes your WISP design so great, as far as I am concerned. My last pass-through design [ie, last week's] used a separate '4052 chip, but I like yours better. [unfortunately, I have to use a bigger cpu pinout to do it - another "recurrent cost" for my boss!]. BTW, I fiddled around some more with the PWM -> charge-pumped-Vpp idea, and it looks like with a single PIC, you could get both +V and -V outputs, separately adjustable, of essentially any voltage. Possibly reinvents the switcher, but adds only about 0.25-0.50 USD to the cost of an embedded system, and the Vpp levels are s.w./Rs-232 controllable. =============== >> Wouter, think you could have your new '87x loader done by this weekend, >> so Jim (Newton) could use it next week? [just kidding - keep up the >> good work]. > >I guess not, there is more to fill my spare time! Maybe in a week or two. > >regards, >Wouter > Be sure to notify the piclist, once it is ready. There is certainly a lot of interest in this area nowadays, especially from Jim Newton and the Techref/CUMP group. best regards, - Dan Michaels Oricom Technologies htpp://www.sni.net/~oricom ==========================