Actually, I found out last week that you can set the programming range on the picstart plus. It is much faster ( 15 seconds as opposed to 2 minutes (ie, too short to do anything useful, too long to sit still)) But I can still watch it count. It takes more time to program the PIC than it needs to. Perhaps the ICD only changes those locations that have changed since last time. -Adam Mike Harrison wrote: > > This seems to be because Picstart Plus is too dumb to ship blank > locations.