On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Mike Harrison wrote: > This seems to be because Picstart Plus is too dumb to ship blank > locations. Unfortunately ICD in programmer-only (non-debug) mode isn't (assuming you mean skip instead of ship). After recently moving, I'm finally pulling my hardware out of storage. I upgraded Andrew Pine's picp (and found that it supports many, many new processors). Programming a 16f84 takes only a fraction of the time it does in MPLAB because it skips the blank locations. Oh, btw - picp is the Linux driver for Picstart+: http://www.cosmodog.com/pic/index.html Scott