Tooting our corporate horn / shameless plug: "think HID!" It is as simple as the Mobil Oil widget (in fact I am almost sure they are HID fobs in disguise.) -Walt... -----Original Message----- From: David VanHorn [mailto:dvanhorn@CEDAR.NET] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 2:39 PM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: PIC based "Electronic key" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >The Hirsch scrambling keypad was not a failure >technically, I was technical manager of a security >company that installed a number of them. I considered >them the best manufactured equipment I had ever seen. They were made well, we just had endless problems with people punching their numbers without looking at the pads. >The problem with them was price.. they were... bloody >expensive! That wasn't a huge factor with us, we got jobs when we were 3X over the next lower bidder. :) We also had all but one gun shop in the state, and NO succesful attempts. >The other problem was the idiot factor and the public... "I >cant remember my number?". That's what killed them for us, they just seemed unable to remember to "look before poking" >I cant see how taking a bit longer to enter a code negates >security.. someone stealing your card and getting in with >it negates security!!!!!!! It gives more opportunities for someone to observe the numbers you're pushing. The limited display angle helps a lot, but it's not perfect, especially at night, once the keys get a little crud on them. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.2 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBOM1uGoFlGDz1l6VWEQL6/QCgg8jtoc/+qn6AA7+2CpdP4+EN50UAn1E3 cE6n5UBbZ/z2rqnxnd0Hb4cE =vmAS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----