Andrew fair comment m8 my dyslexia was dismissed as being to late to help as it was undiscovered until mock exams were pending and i was soon not to be the schools problem ,on reflection i admit to having been a bit hasty ,it just gets my goat that some seem to use this list as a way of getting their work done for them without putting in any effort themselves in fairness the main cause was probably the email that i read prior to Steve's that went something like "how do i clear the w register?" that really fired me up i don't mean to cause offence and if it reads that way I'm sorry :-) best wishes peter