Peter,
 
Would be nice if NZ Credit Cards were widely accepted to :)
I don't hold one, usually try and make O/S transactions via EFT
but on occasion I have had access to a company CC and it has
been declined because its not internationally recognized.
 
As far as DSE and the likes go, these businesses hire SALES
people to fulfil a semi technical position, I have seen more than
my share of them handling static sensitive IC's without using any
static protection at all.
 
The other problem we have over here is that whenever we try and
purchase product from the US we are met with comments like
"Contact out Australasion Agent" then we do so and they inform
us that either the minimum qty is a whole tube (and they don't
supply samples), or "sorry we don't carry that".
 
And YES I would leave if I had half the chance :)
 
Still could be worse, McDonalds could start selling Chips.
 
Anyone want to swap some Sheep Photos for a selection of
Panasonic 1381 Voltage Triggers :)
 
Regards
Andrew
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Crowcroft <peter@KITSRUS.COM>
To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [OT]Re: Price and availability of PIC parts

rom: Jinx <joecolquitt@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
Subject: Re: [OT]Re: Price and availability of PIC parts

This is a RANT

>------------------------
> The problem for New Zealanders wanting to get Nat Semi

>The positon with NS at the moment is -- Avnet are the "official"
rep for NS, they also do Microchip, Motorola, OKI, Seiko, and many

<snip>
charge you 4 times the price for micros or RAM. Retail stores
like Dick Smith or Jaycar just don't have those sort of components
and besides, I wouldn't trust half the staff there to sit the right way
around on a toilet. My last last last resort is a Dick Smith store.


>
I don't want to go complaining about every component rep I've had
the rough end of the pineapple from. Suffice it to say I think some
of their policies are not helpful to developers. I'm reluctant to try
new designs as I know the sort of trouble I'm going to get in trying
to find a sample. So often I don't bother, or patch something up out
my money for them. And of course I'm not going back for a larger
quantity if I can't get experimental samples in the first place.

> Ah well, thats progress for you.

Progress as defined by the bean-counters maybe
>----------------

You know this type of complaining really gets to me!

By being on this list YOU are face to face with the exponentially increasing explosion in knowledge happening today. Yet you want the world in new Zealand to stay as it was in the 1960's with a fully equiped DSE/Jaycar down the street with 104 monoblocks in a choice of .1" or .2" pitch. Get real. If you want to live in a backwater for electronic hardware development then accept that there is an increasing cost. Kids today are not going into electronics as they did in the 1960's - they are playing Quake.

Think 'world'.

Do as I do.

1. Buy from the USA for ICs in bulk. Here are the places:

start with:
http://www.semiresources.com/
ic makers then find distributors

I use:
http://www.nuhorizons.com/
http://www.digikey.com/
http://www.arrow.com/
http://www.future.ca/
http://www.future.ca/1033/fai/
http://www.marshall.com/
http://www.hh.avnet.com/parts_master/query.html
http://www.ied.pios.com/

I have my credit card with 2 of them. I email and the goods come UPS, FedEx, DHL.

No, dont complain to me about the high cost of couriers. You get your goods in 3 days almost guaranteed. Post offics - 3-4 weeks for 'Airmail'.


2. For IC samples: cultivate some friends in the USA with picture books of NZ sheep, yacht races and Queenstown mountains in return for samples as requested.


3. For small numbers of passive components: yes this is a problem. Here is Hong Kong everything is available just 300 yards away (Apliu St, Sham Shui Po.) I think I will start to offer components again for sale. Payment in $US cash currency notes sent to me. More on that later.


Rant finished......


regards,

Peter Crowcroft
DIY Electronics (HK) Ltd
PO Box 88458, Sham Shui Po, Hong Kong
Voice: 852-2720 0255 Fax: 852-2725 0610 Email: peter@kitsrus.com
Web: http://kitsrus.com
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