Arial0000,0000,ffffrom: Jinx < Subject: Re: [OT]Re: Price and availability of PIC parts This is a RANT >------------------------ > The problem for New Zealanders wanting to get Nat Semi >The positon with NS at the moment is -- Avnet are the "official" rep for NS, they also do Microchip, Motorola, OKI, Seiko, and many < charge you 4 times the price for micros or RAM. Retail stores like Dick Smith or Jaycar just don't have those sort of components and besides, I wouldn't trust half the staff there to sit the right way around on a toilet. My last last last resort is a Dick Smith store. > I don't want to go complaining about every component rep I've had the rough end of the pineapple from. Suffice it to say I think some of their policies are not helpful to developers. I'm reluctant to try new designs as I know the sort of trouble I'm going to get in trying to find a sample. So often I don't bother, or patch something up out my money for them. And of course I'm not going back for a larger quantity if I can't get experimental samples in the first place. > Ah well, thats progress for you. Progress as defined by the bean-counters maybe >---------------- You know this type of complaining really gets to me! By being on this list YOU are face to face with the exponentially increasing explosion in knowledge happening today. Yet you want the world in new Zealand to stay as it was in the 1960's with a fully equiped DSE/Jaycar down the street with 104 monoblocks in a choice of .1" or .2" pitch. Get real. If you want to live in a backwater for electronic hardware development then accept that there is an increasing cost. Kids today are not going into electronics as they did in the 1960's - they are playing Quake. Think 'world'. Do as I do. 1. Buy from the USA for ICs in bulk. Here are the places: start with: http://www.semiresources.com/ ic makers then find distributors I use: http://www.nuhorizons.com/ http://www.digikey.com/ http://www.arrow.com/ http://www.future.ca/ http://www.future.ca/1033/fai/ http://www.marshall.com/ http://www.hh.avnet.com/parts_master/query.html http://www.ied.pios.com/ I have my credit card with 2 of them. I email and the goods come UPS, FedEx, DHL. No, dont complain to me about the high cost of couriers. You get your goods in 3 days almost guaranteed. Post offics - 3-4 weeks for 'Airmail'. 2. For IC samples: cultivate some friends in the USA with picture books of NZ sheep, yacht races and Queenstown mountains in return for samples as requested. 3. For small numbers of passive components: yes this is a problem. Here is Hong Kong everything is available just 300 yards away (Apliu St, Sham Shui Po.) I think I will start to offer components again for sale. Payment in $US cash currency notes sent to me. More on that later. Rant finished...... regards, Peter Crowcroft DIY Electronics (HK) Ltd PO Box 88458, Sham Shui Po, Hong Kong Voice: 852-2720 0255 Fax: 852-2725 0610 Email: peter@kitsrus.com Web: http://kitsrus.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------